A political activist says the ongoing crisis in Syria is a Western project to punish the Syrian people for their position against Zionism.
France and Britain have called on the EU to lift an arms embargo on Syria to assist the foreign-backed militants attacking the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The two-year conflict in the Arab country continues to claim lives and destroy the Syrian infrastructure.
Press TV has conducted an interview with Randy Short, a human rights activist from Washington to further discuss the issue. Short is joined by Sheikh Omar Bakri, founder of Hizb ut-Tahrir UK branch from the Lebanese capital city of Beirut. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.
Dr. Short your take on basically what Sheikh Bakri has just said, that he’s saying it is the Mujahedeen that have been involved in this from the very beginning and they do not support or work together with the United States or with the UK. Your take on what exactly is happening on the ground.
You have to pardon me I couldn’t hear what he was saying, but if your summary is that he’s saying that they’re not working with the United States, I need to pray for his memory, I need to pray for his recollection of the facts.
Even these nation states called Lebanon and Syria were created by France and Britain and have been in a vortex of conflict of imperial powers and neocolonial powers whether he would like to be honest about it or not.
So, you know, one can fabulate history, can fabulate because one has an ideology or desire to get rid of the government of Syria but that won’t nullify the Macmillan effort to get rid of the government of Syria in the 1950s or other actions that have been taken, or the United States invasion of Lebanon in the 1950s, or Israel playing Christian Maronites against the Sunni and Shia in Lebanon and so forth.
So this whole region is tampered on a continual basis going all the way back to 1908 when the British Empire realized the potential of petroleum, which would supersede coal and that oil, the petroleum, was in places like Iran and Iraq and this was all about geo-political control and power.
And unfortunately, the government of Syria, which was created by the Ba’athist and others, people have been have been handed countries that were designed to fail by the Sykes-Picot Treaty and the Treaty of Sèvres and the creation of Lebanon as an entity where they would use religion to make people fight each other.
This was the creation of the West and so you have Middle Eastern...
Dr. Short let me just stop you right there as I want to concentrate specifically..., where the discussion is going right now..., what the Sheikh Bakri has said basically what he was talking about al-Nusra Front was that this is the representation of the Mujahedeen not getting any help from the United States and I want your perspective specifically on what is happening on the ground in Syria as we speak?
Well let’s be honest, al-Nusra has been identified as a terrorist group, it’s an affinitive of al-Qaeda, but al-Qaeda was created by the CIA.
So how could they not, you know, you can’t put an olive pit in the ground and get an orange tree.
You cannot have groups started by MI5, MI6, CIA and the French secret service and suddenly it will be autochthonous to the people - that’s insane and I don’t care if someone disagrees with that.
You don’t get oranges from lemon seeds and you don’t get Western funded terrorist groups to become nationalist movements for reform in the Middle East countries or anywhere else for that matter. It’s crazy.
Your take on this because what I wanted the Sheikh to get to. Basically what is the criteria as he called them Mujahedeen and having to be involved in Syria, why do you think there’s a difference between how these countries, like Turkey, like Saudi Arabia, like Qatar, is relating to what’s going on in Syria, as opposed to what’s going on in Bahrain or what’s going on in Saudi Arabia? Dr. Short.
I’ll give you my three answers. One it’s very clear, yes it’s very clear that one criterion for making war against people is that they have to be Shia Muslims.
There’s some crazy idea and here I am a stupid Christian, but Islam is one religion. There’s one Muslim Ummah (one Muslim community). I get that and they’re making war against the Shia all over the world.
Secondly, they want to conserve the monarchial and fanatical governments that are in bed with the West that are stealing the wealth of the Muslim community and squandering it on arms and a handful of people.
And third, those countries that have any Arab nationalism the United States and Britain and France and others have been fighting against the true Arab nationalist movement any true Arab nationalist society; Turkey is not, they’re not Arabs, Arab nationalism is under attack.
This was a thing that united the people behind Nasser to fight to get a fair price for oil to get the United States, Britain and France out; and these people who call themselves servants of Allah are working against fellow Muslims and supporting infidels - I’m calling them that.
It’s crazy and they’re killing fellow Muslims, playing into a sectarian game where the Shia, who are their brothers, they’re being killed in Pakistan and Bahrain, in Saudi Arabia, in Syria - this is madness.
The Prophet, peach be upon him, wouldn’t have wanted this. I get that as a Christian. How can Muslims not care about one another, they’re being used.
What you’ve heard Sheikh Bakri say Dr. Short is basically that al-Nusra is very much independent of these entities.
Where does this go right now, as we see, one second please because I’m running out of time, we see basically that those these entities have said that they support, they want to bring peace to Syria, they want to stop the human rights abuses; we see more and more people being killed every day, we see a total destruction of infrastructure. We see universities, schools - no target is basically off, where everything seems to be in target.
So what does that mean, what really are they trying to do in Syria, Dr. Short.
If you ask me, [it is] because the people have refused..., they want reform, but they don’t want the reform through other countries coming in.
The United States needs reform, but you don’t want Mexico bringing in weapons and arms to topple the government here.
What they (the Western powers) are doing is destroying the country and what they’re going to do is ruin it like Libya if they can, where in the post-conflict the Syrian government will have to go under the IMF (International Monetary Fund) World Bank and become colonized.
They are punishing the Syrian people for being in the forefront against Zionism and being an ally to Iran.
What they want to do is destroy the independence, the movement in particular being led by the right leader [Iran’s President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad and also the Islamic leadership in Iran, which started a revolution that has changed the whole world and they want to roll it back.
And they need to get rid of Syria and show anyone that if you support a true Islamic revolution, you will be destroyed - it is a horrible genocidal, racist, imperialistic, crusader attack on 1.5 billion Muslims in the world.
And I am embarrassed that the silence from Christians and other countries who don’t show solidarity.
We share Abraham, Jesus and a lot in common, we should stand with them and stop these wars and what really needs to be, is a fair price for the riches and the wealth and the culture that the Muslim world has given to all of us.
There would be no Western world without the intellectualism and the gifts of the Muslim world, we should be together as one community, but some people don’t want it and he’s [Sheikh Bakri’s] wrong. The Saudis are funding these people who want Muttahs with women and raping and killing.
So, it’s to terrorize people and say if you don’t bow to the Western demonic god of dollars or capitalism, we’ll destroy you. It’s sad.