'US usurping Middle East uprisings'
Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:15PM
Interview with Mark Glenn, author and political commentator
As popular uprisings sweep across the Middle East against US-backed tyrannical regimes, analysts say western interest groups are contributing to the protests.
Press TV interviews Mark Glenn, author and political commentator, who poses some intriguing interpretations regarding western controlling interests from the analysis of events taking place across the Middle East.
Press TV: If you were a protester in Libya, what would you be feeling hearing Gaddafi's son saying all those things (threatening a blood bath in Libya)?
Mark Glenn: I'm not in the least bit surprised to hear about developments taking place there. I and a few other people who have been following these developments predicted with the uprising in Tunisia that this would be like a wild card that would spread across the entire Middle East region, Libya being of course the most recent situation.
This is like fire season where in certain parts of the world it becomes very dry and all it takes is a bolt of lightning to start something that literally can devastate an entire region. I believe we are seeing the destabilization of all the regimes in the area beginning with Tunisia moving to Egypt, but unfortunately I think the intended result of this is to see it take place in your country of Iran. I think that is the end result that they [Western countries] want to see take place is regime change in countries that are unfavorable to Israel and the US.
Press TV: One thing about Libya is the way the government and security forces have treated protesters I think has been completely different to the way the protesters were treated in Tunisia, Egypt and Bahrain also. How does Libya compare with these other countries (in the unfolding of revolutionary events)?
Mark Glenn: I think what we saw take place with regards to the obvious violence that has been used against the Libyans, which we didn't see take place in Egypt is that Gaddafi understands that there is a direct move that is being played against him to remove him from power -- he has been in power for a long time -- and he saw how easily and how successfully this took place with Egypt with protesters out on the streets for a mere 18 days and Mubarak was forced to flee.
So I think that Gaddafi knew that the game was up -- if they were going to be able to oust Mubarak in what has basically been a bloodless revolution -- it would happen just as easily with his own hold on power. Like most men and women who attain a certain position of power, they don't leave that position easily going quietly into the night, they usually have to be taken out kicking and screaming and obviously this is what we see taking place now in Libya.
I'm looking at the Press TV reports now and it's talking about Gaddafi's son promising reform and of course what else can he do, he has to concede to their demands. I have to wonder whether or not this is going to do him any good and whether the powers that be have already decided that he has to leave as well.
Press TV:Muammar Gaddafi's son, Saif al-Islam, sounded and looked very composed and confident as he was addressing the nation. But behind that, how rattled do you think he and his father and others in the regime are at this point?
Mark Glenn: They sat and watched a revolution take place in nearby Egypt where there weren't many shots fired or any stones thrown and in 18 days a dictator that had been sitting there for 30 years was forced to flee so that would be rattling every leader in the Middle East, and I don't just mean the autocratic ones, but also the democratically elected ones as well.
The players in that part of the world understand that these things don't take place in a vacuum or this quickly without outside help, particularly from western interests and I think they understand that Mubarak was taken out of the picture just like a child would erase a scribbling with an eraser on his pencil - they could just as easily be removed and I think the various countries in the region, including your own of Iran, that even though they're not necessarily coming out and saying that they think there are powerful western interests who are responsible for helping to bring all of this about; I think that quietly in the meeting rooms of intelligence services in countries such as Turkey and Iran and Syria and other places including Libya that they know that the black hand is involved in this; and this has to be rattling.
Everybody of course is waiting to see war break out in these countries as a means of reconstituting their power structure so as to make them more compliant and agreeable with Israel and the US. Nobody really saw a revolution sweeping across the region the way that it did so obviously it's not just Gaddafi and his son who are rattled by these developments; I would say every leader in the Middle East.
Press TV: One thing about Libya is it's doing well economically with good GDP growth and usually when people are satisfied economically they don't revolt. But in Libya's case this doesn't seem to be the case. What do you think has brought these people out onto the streets?
Mark Glenn: Well you've made a perfect point here. We were told with the uprising in Tunisia and Egypt that this is all due to the fact that the people lived in destitution and they could not feed themselves and you are absolutely correct in that people when they are hungry and destitute they will resort to doing things that they normally wouldn't do if they had all their physical and economic needs met, so pointing out that Libya's economy is doing rather well - how do we explain outside of introducing into this discussion not just the possibility but the likelihood that you had money and political interests in the west that are responsible for help to bring this out? How else do we explain it?
At the risk of ruining everybody's good mood over these revolutions that are taking place, I will maintain as I have from the beginning that although the revolutions themselves as far as the anger on the Arab streets may be genuine, nevertheless I do maintain firmly that this has been helped along by western intelligence services who seek to exploit that unrest in order to replace these old dying regimes with new regimes and in the end, even though there may be better economic situations that develop from it and better freedom, the fact of the matter is that nothing will change with regards to business as usual in the Middle East meaning that Israel, the US and the West firm a grip on that part of the world.
So what you've said is absolutely correct, why would the Libyan people be revolting if their economies are good so we have to look at a second explanation for this and the most logical is that this is yet another of these color revolutions that we have seen take place in recent decades by the same money interests that want to keep Arabs and Muslims around the world firmly under the western thumb.
Press TV: One final point -- when concern was raised for other revolutions or uprisings like the ones in Tunisia Egypt and the protests in Bahrain, they don't seem to have clear leadership and that raises the possibility of whether or not these protests will come to fruition and topple the government. In two cases they have worked and in Libya it seems to be the same. Do you think the uprising there is going to make it to the end and topple Gaddafi?
Mark Glenn: No. Practically speaking I don't think a revolution has been fought and I don't think a revolution has been won in the cases of Egypt or Tunisia or Libya.
I think the people got rid of that pent-up energy. But in the end, whoever comes to power in any of these countries they are basically going to do exactly as they're told by the western powers. Let's take Egypt as an example - you have the military now telling the people to get off the streets and go back to work; you have financial sectors talking about the economic devastation that has been done to Egypt as a result of this month-long revolution. Whatever government comes to power in any of these countries, given the fact that their economies have been adversely affected by these events, the very first thing that that government is going to have to do is to hold its hand out and ask for economic assistance - who is it going to ask for this assistance? The West.
So, no matter who comes to power they are already over a barrel; they're being held by the throat by these western financial interests who are going to dictate terms to these new governments so your question about whether or not this revolution is going to come to fruition I would say “no it is not” and the fact that you brought up that there is no real leadership is perfect proof of that because revolutions like this generally speaking throughout history they do evolve around a leader.
The fact that there is no clear-cut leader in all this leads me to believe again that this is just a result of another color revolution that's been backed and pushed by [George] Soros and other economic interests tied to political interests in the west.
They've made sure not to have any leaders in place so that this thing can just expend its energy like a controlled demolition of a building or a safe detonation of a bomb so that the energy is expended and no real damage is done.
My prediction as much as I hate to say it because I want to see the people of the Middle East free, to see them with the kind of governments that are going to act in their interests, but as of this moment it does not look promising. Whoever comes to power in these various countries, the very first thing they're going to have to do is get on their knees and beg for economic assistance from the West and in that respect the revolution will have been thwarted.